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February 3rd, 2007


Venue Info

Picayune Memorial High School
800 Fifth Avenue
Picayune, MS 39466

Phone: (601) 798-1380

Event Details

No. of Attending Choirs:

  13 Mixed Groups
  2 Treble Groups

Hosts:

  Picayune Memorial "Tidal Rave"

Judges: Unknown

Tickets

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Picayune Best of the South 2007









Awards
Predictions
Photos
Event Site
Live Stream


   Finals

  

Groups in order of placement

 Company
 South Jones Jr/Sr High School
Grand Champion 
Best Vocals 
Best Choreography 
Best Overall Effect 

 Gold Horizons
 Northeast Jones Jr/Sr High School
First Runner Up 

 Imagination
 West Jones High School
Second Runner Up 

 Aggie Accents
 Forrest County Agricultural High School
3rd Runner Up 

 Sassy
 West Jones High School
4th Runner Up 


   Mixed Division - Tier I (Prelims)





   Mixed Division - Tier II (Prelims)





   Mixed Division - Tier III

  

Groups in order of placement

 Premiers
 Columbia Academy
First Place 

 Touch of Class
 Lumberton High School
Second Place 

 Entourage
 Stone High School
Third Place 

 Momentum

 Bay High School
No Placement 

 Silvertones

 Northshore High School
No Placement 


   Treble Division

  

Groups

 Sassy
 West Jones High School
First Place 

 Special Edition
 Northeast Jones Jr/Sr High School
Second Place 


   Attending Members

No members signed up for this event.

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ItsMyLife on Mar 1, 2007, 1:05 AM
Post #86
 
honestly

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dancer on Feb 8, 2007, 8:44 AM
Post #85
 
QUOTE(sims4982395 @ Feb 7 2007, 07:04 PM) 381555
i will give you this! Company is an AWESOME group and yea you are right about the whoe clinton thing but the director wanted to try a new way of doing things instead of doing it the old fashioned way cause quite honestly that way does get boring i think by doing the captions the way they were done put a twist on some things! and it was not boring "for once"! it prob. is true that south does work their tails off for show choir but you got to remember jones county mississippi is known to have awsome groups and practice is what makes our county awesome at what it is that we do! you know as well as i do that every group works the same amount it is just a matter of who truly cares and who is in it only for a credit to graduate...



Do you have someone in your group that is in it only for a credit? Because if you do, they need to go!!! Too much money, too much time, just too much to not be in it because you love it!


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divaditw on Feb 7, 2007, 8:16 PM
Post #84
 
Unfortunately with these smaller competitions we find that the integrity of the competition lies with the director in charge of the competition. In some cases, the director understands the show choir world and the "unsaid" rules and regulations and in other cases some directors make up the rules as they go.
As a director, I select our competitions we compete in based on the integrity of the competition and the knowledge of the director to hold a quality competition.
Rules cannot be made up as "we go"....but instead....I believe that directors who decide to host competitions should seek to be consistent with each other so that there is a continuity for judges and participants across the board.
This is what gives show choir a bad name.


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sims4982395 on Feb 7, 2007, 8:04 PM
Post #83
 
QUOTE(Cody Mac @ Feb 7 2007, 02:26 PM) 381458
My following statement may sound rude, inconsiderate of others, or just downright snotty..I apologize if you take them in such manner, but they are my true, honest thoughts and feelings on the matter at hand and are in now way intended to be a reflection of South Jones "Company".

With that said,:

With all due respect, I feel that such an occurance is simply unacceptable.

Here's the thing. When a group works their tail off to perfect every aspect of their show (including Vocals, Choreography, Overall Effect, Band, etc.), they expect to be awarded with captions pertaining to those categories in which they score the highest.

For instance, let's discuss Clinton "Attaché" and their terrible habit of winning everywhere they go...I think they're up to 18-straight Grand Championships now? Insane..

Clinton is, hands down, the best group in the South, year in and year out.

Now, I don't know about you guys, but at most competitions that I've been to where Clinton is there, you expect them to take home all the captions. Why? Because they are the best singing, dancing, performing group there.

When they run away with all of the awards, no one complains. They won them, fair and square, and everyone in that auditorium knows it.

They probably worked their tails about 5x harder than the rest of us, so they definitely earned their right to look the best, and have an auditorium full of people be notified that the judges agreed that they were the most outstanding in the caption categories.

If we want to win the caption awards, we should work harder, and earn them. Simple as that.
I am officially done posting in this topic, now (unless someone just goes on a spree trashtalking me, then i might hvae to come back lol). Should anyone wish to further the conversation, PM me and I'll be more than happy to talk with you. ;)


i will give you this! Company is an AWESOME group and yea you are right about the whoe clinton thing but the director wanted to try a new way of doing things instead of doing it the old fashioned way cause quite honestly that way does get boring i think by doing the captions the way they were done put a twist on some things! and it was not boring "for once"! it prob. is true that south does work their tails off for show choir but you got to remember jones county mississippi is known to have awsome groups and practice is what makes our county awesome at what it is that we do! you know as well as i do that every group works the same amount it is just a matter of who truly cares and who is in it only for a credit to graduate...




SCO Transfer on Feb 7, 2007, 3:26 PM (Edited)
Post #82
 
QUOTE(tidalrave @ Feb 5 2007, 01:52 PM) 380618
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By doing all the captions that way felt that they could get away from the classic way of one group running away with all the awards.


My following statement may sound rude, inconsiderate of others, or just downright snotty..I apologize if you take them in such manner, but they are my true, honest thoughts and feelings on the matter at hand and are in now way intended to be a reflection of South Jones "Company".

With that said,:

With all due respect, I feel that such an occurance is simply unacceptable.

Here's the thing. When a group works their tail off to perfect every aspect of their show (including Vocals, Choreography, Overall Effect, Band, etc.), they expect to be awarded with captions pertaining to those categories in which they score the highest.

For instance, let's discuss Clinton "Attaché" and their terrible habit of winning everywhere they go...I think they're up to 18-straight Grand Championships now? Insane..

Clinton is, hands down, the best group in the South, year in and year out.

Now, I don't know about you guys, but at most competitions that I've been to where Clinton is there, you expect them to take home all the captions. Why? Because they are the best singing, dancing, performing group there.

When they run away with all of the awards, no one complains. They won them, fair and square, and everyone in that auditorium knows it.

They probably worked their tails about 5x harder than the rest of us, so they definitely earned their right to look the best, and have an auditorium full of people be notified that the judges agreed that they were the most outstanding in the caption categories.

If we want to win the caption awards, we should work harder, and earn them. Simple as that.


I am officially done posting in this topic, now (unless someone just goes on a spree trashtalking me, then i might hvae to come back lol). Should anyone wish to further the conversation, PM me and I'll be more than happy to talk with you. ;)


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sims4982395 on Feb 7, 2007, 1:12 PM
Post #81
 
QUOTE(GHcaptain1 @ Feb 7 2007, 10:19 AM) 381393
but it feels like you are slaming us. we all went out there did our very best and thats all any group can do. South jones along with all the other groups had a great show and they deserved to win. the judges made there call on caption awards and there is nothing any of us can do about it. so.... with that being said, this competition is over. lets all move on and focus on upcoming comps. as to my previous comment i do apologize if i was incorrect. i was strictly going off of what my dad had said and i may have mistaken or misquoted him.




i completely agree with you on that! I do feel like we are being slammed for this and honestly it is time to move on untill the next competition! so i cant wait to see everyone at Homewood. bye


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DAJANIK2 on Feb 7, 2007, 12:51 PM
Post #80
 
I THINK YOU ALL DID GREAT THIS PAST WEEKEND. YOU HAVE ALL COME A LONG IN A SHORT TIME. I CAN ONLY HOPE THAT THE FUSSING AND COMPLAINING WILL STOP AND YOU WILL FOCUS ON YOUR GROUP. BECAUSE SOMEONE WHO WANTS TO WIN WORRIES ABOUT THEMSELVES AND THEIR GROUP AND NOT TRYING TO RUN EVERYONE ELSES GROUP/NAME IN THE GROUND. YOU KNOW WHEN YOU SEE THESE GROUPS AT ANTOHER COMP. YOU ARE GOING TO THINK AND TALKING ABOUT IT AND THEN WERE IS THAT GOING TO GET YOU......UNFOCUSED AND THEN THEY WILL HAVE THE CHANCE TO TAKE AWAY YOUR SPOT. SO TRY TO GET OVER THIS AND MOVE ON WITH EVERYTHING. AND BRING YOUR BEST THIS WEEKEND SO YOU CAN BE THE TALK OF THE WEB NEXT WEEK. BY THE WAY I WAS THERE (FROM 8:00AM TILL 12:00 AM) AND WAS BACKSTAGE AND SAY ALOT OF THE STUFF THAT YOU GUYS SAID WENT WRONG.,.......BUT WE ALL KNOW WHEN YOU HAVE DINNER THEATER/DESSERT/OR COMPS, THAT EVERYTHING GOES PERFECT AND THEIR ARE NEVER ANY PROBLEMS OR MISTAKES....... YOU SHOULD NOT PASS JUDGEMENT UNTIL YOU FIX YOUR OWN.... GOD BLESS EACH OF YOU THIS WEEKEND AND WEEKENDS TO COME.

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GHcaptain1 on Feb 7, 2007, 11:19 AM
Post #79
 
QUOTE(Cody Mac @ Feb 6 2007, 05:45 PM) 381188


Incorrect. Perhaps you should check your information before you post.

At both South Jones, and Homewood, the captions are chosen based on scores. It's just plain ridiculous to base it on anything else, because it causes nothing but controversy and upset students/directors on all sides.

In fact, Picayune is the first competition I've ever heard of that doesn't base the captions on scores.

None of my comments in this topic are meant to take anything away from Northeast Jones, by any means..they've worked hard and have a great group, so please don't take it that way.




but it feels like you are slaming us. we all went out there did our very best and thats all any group can do. South jones along with all the other groups had a great show and they deserved to win. the judges made there call on caption awards and there is nothing any of us can do about it. so.... with that being said, this competition is over. lets all move on and focus on upcoming comps. as to my previous comment i do apologize if i was incorrect. i was strictly going off of what my dad had said and i may have mistaken or misquoted him.




SCO Transfer on Feb 6, 2007, 8:45 PM
Post #78
 
QUOTE(GHcaptain1 @ Feb 6 2007, 10:33 AM) 381005
The caption awards were based on the judges opinion and entertainment not on scores....(just how it is at south jones or homewood). South Jones.... congrats on GC. ya'll deserved it and tried hard.


Incorrect. Perhaps you should check your information before you post.

At both South Jones, and Homewood, the captions are chosen based on scores. It's just plain ridiculous to base it on anything else, because it causes nothing but controversy and upset students/directors on all sides.

In fact, Picayune is the first competition I've ever heard of that doesn't base the captions on scores.

None of my comments in this topic are meant to take anything away from Northeast Jones, by any means..they've worked hard and have a great group, so please don't take it that way.





johnsaloser on Feb 6, 2007, 7:36 PM
Post #77
 
QUOTE(I_Got_Rhythm @ Feb 6 2007, 12:22 AM) 380982
Sure South Jones was better at matching a score sheet, but the judges were obviously looking for something else giving the award to the other group (who's name escapes me).

How exactly did you forget the name? They're all called "<INSERT DIRECTION> Jones."

QUOTE(I_Got_Rhythm @ Feb 6 2007, 12:22 AM) 380982
Was this error announced by the competition or just on the boards here? If it was just on the boards, I feel that the person who posted it should've consulated Picayune officials before posting it, as it takes away from the feeling of the award. (And please don't bring up that them getting the award takes away from your group...please read my post above to clarify). I don't think that a mistake was ever made, and that's what it came across as when the poster posted. No offense to the person who posted it because it was second hand talk anyway. But to put it as "they won best choreography too" without knowledge of Picayune's system is unfair to Picayune and the group that won the award. It now makes Picayune's competition look like it made a mistake, when it wasn't a mistake in the first place. Sorry for rambling, but there's a lot of "gossip" talk on these boards already, and when it could possibly hurt a competition's reputation by saying there was a "mistake", it's just uncalled for until you know all the facts. I think the better way to bring it up would be as a question, asking "Why did South have the highest choreography score but (insert name) won the award?" ---the question that was probably asked by the director's at Picayune to the officials present, they had their questioned answered before they spread some sort of "mistake" rumor.

You're right; this entire situation is my doing. Next time I'll make sure that I call each associated choir's director personally before posting anything about a competition.

QUOTE(jondenson @ Feb 6 2007, 04:20 PM) 381146
Homewood's competition has always gone on scores.

I now understand why.


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jondenson on Feb 6, 2007, 7:20 PM
Post #76
 
QUOTE(GHcaptain1 @ Feb 6 2007, 10:33 AM) 381005
The caption awards were based on the judges opinion and entertainment not on scores....(just how it is at south jones or homewood). South Jones.... congrats on GC. ya'll deserved it and tried hard.


Homewood's competition has always gone on scores.


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Carol B. on Feb 6, 2007, 5:22 PM
Post #75
 
Please don't feel that I was fussing at you about your feelings. It wasn't aimed at you or anybody in particular. I believe we all want the best for our show choir.
You do have a right to express how you feel.
I'm from Northeast and was there even tho I'm not a performer. I was proud of our show choir but also proud of all the show choirs. Everybody wants to win. We all know that, and that's a great attitude to have. I met Ms Carter and she seemed so nice. I know Dr. Myers was very pleased at the way she tried to accomodate everybody. But again, it's only my opinion.




ashley09 on Feb 6, 2007, 4:52 PM
Post #74
 
QUOTE(Carol B. @ Feb 6 2007, 12:08 PM) 381042
I think it's time to put the Picauyne competition behind us. South did a great job. Northeast also did a great job. Let's not spend our time slamming Ms Carter, Picauyne or Northeast. I have to agree with a former writer, if you're not happy about Picauyne competition, don't do it again.
I was actually there and thought it was a wonderful night. I really wasn't surprised at anything I saw. To me, the judges called it like they saw it. I have been aware of these judges for a long time and each one is very credible.
This weekend is Opelika and Petal. Best to all who compete. Let's strive to wish the best for each other during this long and tiring competition season.
Show choir should be fun for everyone. I do wish everyone could win each time but we all know that's not how it works. Every judge sees things differently. That's why we have a "panel" .
Have a great day, everyone!



Well it's not my decision weather or not we compete there it is my directors decision. So saying that to me is pointless... and i'm sure Northeast will be there next year because yall seemed to be what the judges were looking for...that is also probably why you are defending the competition. And once again I will say I WAS NOT TRYING TO OFFEND ANYONE. I WAS NOT SLAMMING MS.CARTER OR PICAYUNE. I have much respect for her and her choir for even hosting a competition being that it is her first year there. And you are right we should put this competition behind us, because this whole arguement is very stupid, and congrats to South. Yall were amazing as usual.


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Carol B. on Feb 6, 2007, 3:08 PM
Post #73
 
QUOTE(ashley09 @ Feb 6 2007, 11:39 AM) 381038
I'm sure Picayune worked very hard, and I am not trying to offend anyone or make their school look bad in anyway.There are some positive aspects that I saw. I didn't see just the negative. most schools don't even think about hosting a competition, and i give them credit for trying. It's just that the mistakes they did make were very noticable, and they were simple things that could have been avoided.(curtain opening when group was unprepared, the lights, the mics etc.) We are all human and we make mistakes, and I am not holding any of the things they did wrong against them personally. I could see that as individuals every one was trying their best to make the competition run as smooth as possible, but as a whole things just seemed unorganized. Sorry if anyone's feeling were hurt I was just posting the obvious.


I think it's time to put the Picauyne competition behind us. South did a great job. Northeast also did a great job. Let's not spend our time slamming Ms Carter, Picauyne or Northeast. I have to agree with a former writer, if you're not happy about Picauyne competition, don't do it again.
I was actually there and thought it was a wonderful night. I really wasn't surprised at anything I saw. To me, the judges called it like they saw it. I have been aware of these judges for a long time and each one is very credible.
This weekend is Opelika and Petal. Best to all who compete. Let's strive to wish the best for each other during this long and tiring competition season.
Show choir should be fun for everyone. I do wish everyone could win each time but we all know that's not how it works. Every judge sees things differently. That's why we have a "panel" .
Have a great day, everyone!




ashley09 on Feb 6, 2007, 2:39 PM
Post #72
 
QUOTE(musicman1988 @ Feb 6 2007, 05:37 AM) 380990
No, it's not a personal attack. I simply felt that your comment discredited all of Picayune's hard work. And i still feel this way. And yes, I'm much older than you, and I've got a better perspective of people who put tons of time and effort into bringing more competitions to the South; something that has been a more recent effort. I'm not saying that you're not entiled to your opinion. We're humans, but i'm saying that you've got to look at things and find the good in them. I'm not new to show choir by any means, and it took me a while to learn this. I know that I would be crushed if I were a Picayune student or Mrs. Carter, and read comments that discredit and tear down everything they worked for. Also, since I'm older than you, I'll appoligize for focusing on your comment. However, my comment still stands.


I'm sure Picayune worked very hard, and I am not trying to offend anyone or make their school look bad in anyway.There are some positive aspects that I saw. I didn't see just the negative. most schools don't even think about hosting a competition, and i give them credit for trying. It's just that the mistakes they did make were very noticable, and they were simple things that could have been avoided.(curtain opening when group was unprepared, the lights, the mics etc.) We are all human and we make mistakes, and I am not holding any of the things they did wrong against them personally. I could see that as individuals every one was trying their best to make the competition run as smooth as possible, but as a whole things just seemed unorganized. Sorry if anyone's feeling were hurt I was just posting the obvious.


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GHcaptain1 on Feb 6, 2007, 11:33 AM
Post #71
 
QUOTE(Cody Mac @ Feb 5 2007, 10:26 AM) 380592
So what you're telling me is that the judges are bipoloar?

The judges gave South the highest choreography scores.

Northeast was given the "best choreography" caption award, that you say the judges chose (the same ones that gave South all the highest scores)..?

Does that add up to you? It certainly doesn't to me...






The caption awards were based on the judges opinion and entertainment not on scores....(just how it is at south jones or homewood). South Jones.... congrats on GC. ya'll deserved it and tried hard.




musicman1988 on Feb 6, 2007, 8:37 AM (Edited)
Post #70
 
QUOTE(ashley09 @ Feb 5 2007, 09:53 PM) 380898
wow. you are taking this as a personal attack, and that is very immature, we are better than that. First off, i didn't mean to offend anyone by MY OPINIONS (none of which should reflect on my group). Yes my school will never host a competition, but that is understandable. My high school has the population of maybe 350 students, our school is way to small to even consider it... but that is beside the point. I have been to many competitions and i know how its supposed to work.none of my comments were uneducated, i have attended many compititions in various cities and states I have every right to post my opinion. personally I think alot went wrong saturday. Enough said... and granted it is incredibly hard to host a competition, other schools seem to organize them quite well.
It amazes me how you called me ignorant when you had no right doing so. I am entitled to my opinion as well as you are, and you should not have gotten offended by it. That is very childish, and if I am correct you are much older than me.This whole arguement is very immature... and my opinion still stands. I think the competition was unorganized...and I am not the only one who feels the same way I can promise you that


No, it's not a personal attack. I simply felt that your comment discredited all of Picayune's hard work. And i still feel this way. And yes, I'm much older than you, and I've got a better perspective of people who put tons of time and effort into bringing more competitions to the South; something that has been a more recent effort. I'm not saying that you're not entiled to your opinion. We're humans, but i'm saying that you've got to look at things and find the good in them. I'm not new to show choir by any means, and it took me a while to learn this. I know that I would be crushed if I were a Picayune student or Mrs. Carter, and read comments that discredit and tear down everything they worked for. Also, since I'm older than you, I'll appoligize for focusing on your comment. However, my comment still stands.


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ajm41827 on Feb 6, 2007, 3:22 AM (Edited)
Post #69
 
What you all must consider about this award being handed out by the judges is that the score sheet might not contain all of the elements that the judges here looked for when it came to Best Choreography. For instance, on many score sheets there's difficulty, cleanliness, and effectiveness. But rarely do you see a connection with music category. With this said, a group could be doing tap to Bohemian Rhapsody and walk away with best choreography because they danced better and were more clean. When it's not appropriate at all. I'm not saying that this entirely the case here, because I haven't seen the score sheet. There are SEVERAL other scenarios and categories that could be brought up, but that's the one that came to mind the quickest. My guess is that the judges looked for something more that wasn't on the score sheet when they got to choose Best Choreography. Sure South Jones was better at matching a score sheet, but the judges were obviously looking for something else giving the award to the other group (who's name escapes me).

...Just an unbiased opinion .

Was this error announced by the competition or just on the boards here? If it was just on the boards, I feel that the person who posted it should've consulated Picayune officials before posting it, as it takes away from the feeling of the award. (And please don't bring up that them getting the award takes away from your group...please read my post above to clarify). I don't think that a mistake was ever made, and that's what it came across as when the poster posted. No offense to the person who posted it because it was second hand talk anyway. But to put it as "they won best choreography too" without knowledge of Picayune's system is unfair to Picayune and the group that won the award. It now makes Picayune's competition look like it made a mistake, when it wasn't a mistake in the first place. Sorry for rambling, but there's a lot of "gossip" talk on these boards already, and when it could possibly hurt a competition's reputation by saying there was a "mistake", it's just uncalled for until you know all the facts. I think the better way to bring it up would be as a question, asking "Why did South have the highest choreography score but (insert name) won the award?" ---the question that was probably asked by the director's at Picayune to the officials present, they had their questioned answered before they spread some sort of "mistake" rumor.

I don't read this thread very often, so I won't respond probably for a while if someone responds to me!

Also, I don't mean to mean or accusatory here, just stating what I see going on, and presenting a counterpoint to everything that has been said so far!




ashley09 on Feb 5, 2007, 10:53 PM
Post #68
 
QUOTE(musicman1988 @ Feb 5 2007, 01:50 PM) 380718
I wish not to be catty, but cleary, you have no idea what it takes to run a competition seeing as how your school does not, and for that fact never will host a competition (your stage is not large enough). I have first hand experience from hosting other competitive events. However, you have no place to talk about thier competition being unorganized this year. They made vast improvements from last year. You also should keep in mind the fact that Mrs. Carter and her staff are relatively new to running a competition. I find it extremely admirable that Mrs. Carter and her staff continued the "Best of the South". They could have copped out after Mr. Mizell's move, but chose to continue. Before you make ludacris, un-educated, guilded comments, think. Your ignorance makes me think badly upon your group. Part of being in Show Choir is the competitiveness of the event, but also experiencing new things and being mindful of situations. Have an open mind and stop being ignorant. It's sickening. And yes, I attended the same event. I was there for most of the competiton. And newsflash, most competitions do last all day. If your group is that unsatisfied with Best of the South, try this. Don't Attend. Problem solved.



wow. you are taking this as a personal attack, and that is very immature, we are better than that. First off, i didn't mean to offend anyone by MY OPINIONS (none of which should reflect on my group). Yes my school will never host a competition, but that is understandable. My high school has the population of maybe 350 students, our school is way to small to even consider it... but that is beside the point. I have been to many competitions and i know how its supposed to work.none of my comments were uneducated, i have attended many compititions in various cities and states I have every right to post my opinion. personally I think alot went wrong saturday. Enough said... and granted it is incredibly hard to host a competition, other schools seem to organize them quite well.
It amazes me how you called me ignorant when you had no right doing so. I am entitled to my opinion as well as you are, and you should not have gotten offended by it. That is very childish, and if I am correct you are much older than me.This whole arguement is very immature... and my opinion still stands. I think the competition was unorganized...and I am not the only one who feels the same way I can promise you that


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showchoir423 on Feb 5, 2007, 10:44 PM (Edited)
Post #67
 
Congrats south jones i bet yall were amazing...loved the show at yalls invitational..


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